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GManTor |
Bill Sheridan is Awful
Oct 30 2009, 1:33 PM EDT
The Giants D has been a joke this year, and Bill Sheridan can't hold Steve Spagnolo's jock strap when it comes to play calling and strategy. As a Giants fan their defensive coaching has been an embarrasment. I now understand why Osi Umenyoria had some conflict with Bill Sheridan, because Bill does not know how to coach and is not a leader. If you're going to make your pro bowl defensive end angry who has no history have having difficulty with coaches, obviously Bill Sheridan is the problem and upper management needs to understand that.
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M.DeFed |
1. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Oct 30 2009, 4:47 PM EDT
I don't think that he is so awful. Remebr that in the begining of the year he wanted to be up in the booth were he has been in the past so that may be a contributing factor in how he sees the game and responds to it. I think that he will work into it. He has a banged up secondary right now that is giving up some big plays and the LB's have been less than stellar. He does not blitz as much as Spags did so the pressure is on the Giants front four to step it up a little. I do agree however that he has to get better at his gameplan and on field adjustments. But the players still have to do their job during the game.
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RRoble |
2. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Oct 30 2009, 6:14 PM EDT
Spags is 0-7 as the Rams Head Coach. Read that again.Sounds like McNaab will not be missing Spags though!: http://history.giants.com/video/7967303/Eagles%27+McNabb+talks+Giants+gameplan Get behind Coach Sheridan, it's the players who make or don't make plays. When Bennie Wells ran all over the Giants secondary and the CB's simply missed tackles, who's fault is that? The D stepped up after the horrible Saints game and played much, much better against the tough Cardinal offense. The Giants talented D line needs to dominate for the team to win these big games...when they do that, no one will complain about Coach Sheridan. Do you find this valuable? |
Superstarzchef |
3. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Oct 31 2009, 9:31 AM EDT
Exactly. Well put RR. Sheridan is doing just fine. Leave him outta the conversation. The pressure is on the Front 4 of the D-Line to get the job done. Mostly I think they have, yet the last 3 games they haven't made some of the plays they are cappable of. They were just a step behind Warner, and Brees, thesae last two games, like just inches away from making the play. So I know they got it in them to make the plays. Sheridan was handed a Pro-Bowl caliber Defense, and he lets the players play. Sure he blitzs less then Spags, but if you Blitz all the time the other teams will burn you. Don't forget whos been out most of the season too in our secondary., so when you lose those guys for most of your games you gotta make adjustments, and I like the adjustments Sheridan has made back there Thomas is playing like a Pro-Bowler too. And Corey is-or should-be going to the Pro-Bowl. I'll feel better when Ross is back, cuz the Sheridan can make/call some different packages when he's in the nickel.
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GManTor |
4. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 2 2009, 11:19 AM EST
Hey Superstarzchef, and everyone else. I respect your comments posted but I have to respectfully disagree. The proof is in the pudding, the Giants have been lit up by Dallas (giants were lucky with the win), New Orleans, Arizona, and now Philly. They no longer play smash mouth defense, and as you have all pointed out they blitz a fraction of the time this year without Spagnolo, and look at what Philly has done with their blitzes, forcing Manning to throw more internceptions than touchdowns. The argument of Spagnolo not doing well with the Rams is not addressing the point here, which is the talent we have is by far greater than what the Rams have, but they are not being utilized or led well by their defensive coordinator who looks like he has zero leadership skills. You can see on film how Spags talked to players on the sideline and how he is a players coach, whereas Sheridan has no people skills and has ruined the formula that has worked for the Giants which is to apply pressure and blitz nonstop. It pains me to see other fans not noticing this, when will you guys wake up. The Giants are the laughing stock of the league right now, and they need to get a new defensive coordinator that likes to blitz.
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den/nyg |
5. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 2 2009, 5:11 PM EST
Not sure I totally agree with all of that, but certainly that Sheridan is not Spags! You can't blame the lack of toughness, poor tackling and lack of heart on him. I can blame him for blantant lack of aggresion on defensive side of ball. Do not believe defensive performance would have been acceptable to Coach Spags!
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den/nyg |
6. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 2 2009, 6:17 PM EST
After the loss to Eagles, some of the defensive players sited " communication issues' has a problem on defense. Coach Coughlin echoed that evaluation in his press statements today. He did point out that "communication" issues were on the coaching staff and that corrections would have to be made.
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giantsgirl1 |
7. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 2 2009, 7:04 PM EST
With exception of our coach, we have the same defense...don't think they forgot how to play, oh wait obviously they did.Do you find this valuable? |
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GManTor |
8. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 3 2009, 11:36 AM EST
Well, you have all touched on similar points that the players haven't changed, and only the coach has. When you take two teams that are very similar on paper in terms of talent, stats, and both teams are hungry so emotionally they're the same, and so forth, what causes one team to beat the other? It usually comes down to leadership, and how strong of a leader their coach is. All of the leaders from the Giant's superbowl win (Strahan, Umenyoria, Pierce) they all credited coach Coughlin for changing his ways and becoming a stronger leader for them. Without Coughlin changing, they claim they would not have had the run they had two years ago and would just simply be another average team in the NFL. So most of you have touched on this fact, that the only thing that changed here is the defensive coordinator. Once a drastic change is made, either they start blitzing much more and become more aggressive and continue using the formula that Spags created here before he left, or Bill Sheridan is ultimately replaced with someone who has more of a Philly style mentallity when it comes to defense, you will see a remarkable change in the Giants and they will get back to winning.
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den/nyg |
9. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 3 2009, 4:15 PM EST
| Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 4:17 PM EST
"After the loss to Eagles, some of the defensive players sited " communication issues' has a problem on defense. Coach Coughlin echoed that evaluation in his press statements today. He did point out that "communication" issues were on the coaching staff and that corrections would have to be made. "Clearly GManTor all is not right in Gotham on the defensive side of ball. I did'nt disagree with you just thought you were giving Sheridan to much credit for recent meltdown. Players and Coaches alike to blame for poor defensive showing! I do agree with you, he is not nearly has aggressive with the d-line has Coach Spags was. Big questions about Coach Sheridan and what his defense would look like, still more questions than answers! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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wjanulin |
10. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 6 2009, 12:13 PM EST
Right on....their defensive scheme is too predictable and the New Orleans game was the proof. You cannot depend on your 4 defensive lineman to be totally responsile for the pass rush. These offernsive lines are too good. the schemes have to be mixed to force offensive mistakes. The Philly game proves that out.
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GManTor |
11. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 6 2009, 3:12 PM EST
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I just read another post regarding Bill Sheridan and how he has destroyed this Giants Defense. Your impotent coaching is no longer a secret Bill, get with the program (Spagnolo's old program) or get the heck out of dodge. Getting Bill to make adjustments during a game (Spags was brilliant at this) is as hard as getting Kevin Dockery to make an open field tackle. Read that other post here:http://www.giantsfootballblog.com/category/bill-sheridan/ 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
aliconig |
12. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 6 2009, 4:52 PM EST
My concern of the day: as I was running somewhere I checked my phone headlines from the Star Ledger. The headline was something about Bill S not agreeing at the Defense was not communicating well, while the players alternatively felt that this was the case. That is not a good sign: the coach and the players being on a different page.I wasn't thrilled. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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GManTor |
13. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 6 2009, 5:59 PM EST
Hey aliconig, I read that as well. Actually if you google "Bill Sheridan" and then click "News" you will see all sorts of recent articles written about how he should be getting the axe. Here is another one, the writer sounds a bit like me which is quite funny, yet brilliant:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/282582-why-the-giants-need-to-fire-bill-sheridan 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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den/nyg |
14. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 6 2009, 7:15 PM EST
GmanTor, your humility is duly noted! LOL! Sheridan won't get fired before the bye week, and I doubt before the season ends, but if opponents keep running 40 up on the Giants who knows. I find it hard to believe that Sheridan would deny communication issues. He's either stubborn or stupid, or both. Coach Coughlin even went so far has to say that there at least appeared to be some communication issues. I see a regression in defensive regards, I'm starting to feel like Sheridan is losing control of the defense! Maybe thats the issue the defensive players were talking about!
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den/nyg |
15. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 7 2009, 9:26 PM EST
Sheridan says breakdowns on defense are physical and not mental.
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giantsgirl1 |
16. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 7 2009, 10:19 PM EST
While injuries seem to abound our team, they clearly are not playing as one line, and are almost like robots. As we know you must be able read and adapt and this sim ply is not happening. Why??? Are they lazy, not communicating, did they stop caring, or is the coach an idiot and CAN NOT create the uniform spirit?
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gmen11 |
17. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 8 2009, 10:54 AM EST
As I posted my opinion about Sheridan a few weeks ago; the game is about matchups and adjustments and it appears to me that his lack of experience as a D Co., is hurting him in making these changes on the fly. At pro level it takes time, however with the money he is getting paid, he cannot be allowed alot of it. Additionally, other coordinators are game planning vs our D ends who are rushing upfield so fast they are taking themselves out of the play. GG1 imo, Boley and Canty will give us a much better chance at a much needed win
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jherling |
18. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 8 2009, 12:37 PM EST
I said months ago that C.C. Brown didn't belong on the roster. So what does Sheridan do? He not only keeps Brown, but puts him into the starting lineup in place of Kenny Philips! What else could he have done? Well, the Giants signed Aaron Rouse after Phillips went on the IR. Rouse may be of questionable ability, but there was never any question but that C.C. ("Can't Cover") Brown didn't have nearly enough ability to get the job done. Sheridan ought to have known this.
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RRoble |
19. RE: Bill Sheridan is Awful
Nov 8 2009, 12:38 PM EST
i'm going to call out the linebackers on D, they are very average and need to improve today in order for the GMen to take down the Chargers.
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